Shumukh’s Prebuttal Of Sayyid Imam

Posted: 17th November 2008 by Will McCants in Egypt, Zawahiri
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The Egyptian newspaper, Al-Masri al-Youm, announced last week that Sayyid Imam will publish a rebuttal of Zawahiri’s Tabri’a (Exoneration), which itself was a rebuttal of Sayyid Imam’s Tarshid–a text that caused a great stir last year because the author criticized his former colleague, Zawahiri, for being an unrealistic revolutionary.  Since Rob at Media Shack is probably going to cover the book’s serial publication (the release begins this Tuesday), I’ll focus on Jihadi reaction to the text as it is released.  (Incidentally, Imam’s new book is entitled, Denudation of the Exoneration.)  

Today we have a prebuttal of the work posted to the Shumukh forum, followed by comments.  The author of the prebuttal, Ayman, employs several lines of attack:

 

  • Sayyid Imam’s earlier books were too extreme in their formulation of laws for jihad.
  • He is a flip-flopper.  Why should we trust what a flip-flopper says?
  • If he really understands Islam, why does he need to write “revisions?”

 

Another Shumukh member, Abu `Abd al-`Aziz al-Yamani, does not like Ayman’s reasoning because it means that Sayyid Imam is sincere in his revisions and is not being coerced, the latter being the standard line of attack on Imam’s book.  Others agree, prompting Ayman to shoot back: “Dr. Hani al-Siba`i communicated with the son of Sayyid Imam, who said, ‘We visited my father in prison and everything that he wrote regarding these revisions he did of his own free will.”

Trying for a little nuance, Muslim lil-Abad quotes Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi’s thoughts on Imam’s Tarshid.  Part of it, Maqdisi says, is commensurate with things he had said in his earlier works; part of it was obviously inserted by the Egyptian government because no student of Islam would ever say such things; and part of it represents his true hostility toward al-Qaeda. 

Document (Arabic): 11-17-08-shamikh-debate-over-status-of-sayyid-imam-revisions

  1. Rob says:

    good post. im not planning on spending alot of time covering it, so don’t hold back if your wanting to post on the contents itself

    • we should go jihat on all rodents

      • JAHAD TO ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS says:

        ALL OF YOU BASTARDS NEED YOUR THROATS CUT!!! THERE IS BUT 1 GOD AND JESUS CHRIST HIS SON!!! YOU AND YOUR SO CALLED JIHAD BULLSHIT MAKES ME SICK… WHERE IS OSAMA BIN LADEN….. OSAMA BIN LADEN IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE DEEP BLUE SEA FOR THE FISH TO EAT!! ROFLMFAO YOUR ALL A BUNCH OF DUMB PRICKS WHO THINK GOD WILL GIVE YOU 72 VIRGINS IN HEAVEN………… BULLSHIT…………. AS IF GOD WOULD PERMIT SUCH FORNICATION IN HEAVEN!!! FOR THERE IS BUT 1 TRUE GOD ONLY!!!!!!!!!!! AND IF HE DOES NOT PERMIT SUCH FORNICATION ON EARTH HE SURE AINT GOING TO PERMIT IT IN HEAVEN!! GET A BRAIN ALL YOU ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS… FOR A DEAD DOG IS BETTER THAN YOU ARE. GODS LAW STATES… THOU SHALL NOT KILL… AND WHAT DO YOU LOT DO? YOU KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.. YOU ARE NOT OF GOD BUT OF THE WHORE AND THE DEVIL HIMSELF .. YOU CALL FOR THE DEATH OF OTHERS WHEN ALL VENENCE BELONGS TO THE TRUE GOD AND NOT A BUNCH OF RODENTS LIKE Umar al-Basrawi ………….. YOU ARE VILE FILTH. MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOU WHEN OUR LORD JESUS RETURNS FOR YOU SHALL BURN IN HELL FOR THE SINS YOU COMMIT… SO GO JIHAD ON YOURSELVES, TAKE YOUR OWN PITIFUL AND SINFULL LIVES, BUT LEAVE INNOCENT PEOPLE OUT OF IT.. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU FOR CALLING JIHAD, AND MAY GOD AVENGE AGAINST YOU FOR EACH AND EVERY LIFE YOU LOT TAKE AND FOR INCITING VIOLENCE AGAINST PEOPLE, GODS PEOPLE! I WOULD NOT PISS ON YOU IF YOU WERE ON FIRE. FOR YOU ARE WORTHLESS… AND ARE AGAINST THE ONE TRUE GOD.

    • HOLY AMERICAN WARRIOR says:

      FUCK ISLAM. FUCK THE KORAN. FUCK ALL MUSLIMS. IF YOU WANT SOME…. COME GET SOME YOU TERROIST BITCHES

    • The the says:

      The only thing I can say is that Islamic extremists should be shot on the spot!!
      Ignorant bastards …..

  2. [...] [the Tarshid] under the supervision of the U.S. and the Jews.  He is a liar and I call him to a mubahala.  I swear to God that I wrote the Document to help Islam and if Zawahiri has lied about this, may [...]

  3. Markus Løyte says:

    Abuduhlla jihad, we owned you…!!

    Osama bin laden is deeaadd!!

    pigs.

  4. I like pig, osama is dead.

    Okay?

    ggoooooddd0d

    Mathias Brede, Norway – Bærum out!

    +46 473 63 337

  5. wtf says:

    Fucking islamic trash – dead for good – take heed and stop breeding your islamic pig children. The world will be a better place without you all! Peace on earth will reign once the jihad is gone Heil!

    • theresa kitchens says:

      SHAME ON YOU!…We are human why do we need to hate each other & hurt each other why make fun of any god, what does hate and hurting each other do for us? nothing but give the devil what he wants from us.. when will we every learn how to love one another nobody is better than the other person.

  6. Azra'il says:

    To the perversion of Islam called Wahhabi your days are numbered. Your so called Jihad started by the perverted, immoral Imams and Shieks in the Middle East who are hypocrits that watch pornography, send young men that have had their innocent minds corrupted by small minded bigots I have this to say to you. You will be found, cut to small pieces and stuffed into dead pigs then buried in shallow graves so that all the world above and below will know what filth and traitors you are to the faith of Islam.

    Malikul Mawt is coming for each of you, and you cannot hide.

    • Malikul Mawt says:

      Yes I am coming to destroy ALL who believe in all false doctrines, and the Followers of Islam and other dogs will be first to die…..suddenly and without warning…sleep tight, I will get you and keep your eyes shut forever in the darkness you love so much..for all of your killing and violence, remember my words “He who lives by the SWORD will DIE by the SWORD” and THEN burn…

      • JAHAD TO ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS says:

        YOU ARE THE ONES WHO FOLLOW A FALSE PROPHET!!!! ISLAM IS THE WORK OF SATAN!! THERE IS BUT 1 TRUE LIVING GOD AND HIS SON JESUS CHRIST AND THE HOLY GHOST. THERE IS NO MENTION OF MOHAMAD IN THE BIBLE, AND AS THE BIBLE STATES, ANYONE PROCLAIMING TO BE A PROPHET OF GOD AFTER THAT IS A FALSE PROPHET. SO YOUR RELIGION FOLLOWS A FALSE PROPHET THEREFORE IS NOT OF THE WORD OF GOD, BUT BY SATAN, THE DEVIL HIMSELF. YOU DONT EVEN TAKE NOTE OF GODS LAW. THOU SHALL NOT KILL. BUT YOU DO MORE THAN KILL, YOU SLAUGHTER THE INNOCENT AND EVEN YOUR OWN PEOPLE. YOU TREAT YOUR WOMEN BADLY, MAKE THEM WEAR CLOTHING HEAD TO FOOT COVERING THEIR OWNS FACES EVEN IN BOILING HEAT. YOU MAKE THEM MARRY MEN UNCIRCUMCISED FILTHY OLD MEN THAT THEY DO NOT WANT. YOU TREAT YOUR ANIMALS BADLY BUT YOUR WOMEN EVEN WORSE!! GOD WILL JUDGE YOU FOR FOLLOWING SATAN BY YOUR ISLAMIC EVIL RELIGION AND BY HIS OWN WORDS AND THAT OF HIS SON, YOU SHALL BE SPEWED OUT AND BURN ETERANALLY. YOU DID NOT OBEY EVERYONE OF GODS LAWS AND HOW HE CAN STAND THE SIGHT OF IT I DO NOT KNOW. YOU FOLLOW THE DEVIL AND THE FALSE PROPHET AND GO AGAINST ALL THE TRUTH OF GODS WORDS AND THEN CLAIM YOUR GOING TO GET 72 VIRGINS IN HEAVEN, LMAO FOR IF SUCH FORNICATION IS WRONG IN GODS EYES ON EARTH, THEN DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT GOD WOULD PERMIT SUCH FORNICATION IN HEAVEN?? I DO NOT THINK SO FOR THERE WOULD BE NO SUCH THING AND ONLY A FOOL OR THE FOLLOWERS OF EVIL WOULD EVEN THINK OF SUCH A THING.. SHAME ON ALL ISLAM FOR THINKING THAT SUCH A THING WOULD HAPPEN. I SAY UNTO YOU. REPENT FOR YOUR EVIL WAYS AND TURN TOWARDS THE 1 TRUE GOD FOR AS IT IS WRITTEN IN GODS OWN HOLY BOOK, NO ONE SHALL ENTER GODS KINDOM OF HEAVEN BUT BY THE SON, JESUS CHRIST AND HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN OPEN AND CLOSE THE DOORS OF THE KINDOM OF HEAVEN! AND IF YOU DO NOT ACCEPT THE SON OF GOD THEN YOU ALSO DENY THE TRUE GOD. IT ALSO SAYS BE WATCHFUL AS WHEN HE RETURNS IT SHALL BE AS A THIEF IN THE NIGHT. SO REPENT UNTO HIM FOR YOUR EVIL WAYS AND TURN FROM FOLLOWING A FALSE PROPHET, BEG FOR FORGIVENESS AND FOLLOW GODS LAW, ACCEPT HIS SON LORD JESUS AND YOU MAY BE SAVED BUT IF YOU CONTINUE ON YOUR DISTRUCTIVE PATH AND CONTINUE TO DISOBEY GOD. REMEMBER THAT IN GODS WORDS, THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH. AND I MEAN ETERNAL DEATH BURNING IN THE BOWELS OF HELL IN FIRE FOR ETERNITY. AND THERE IS NO ESCAPE FROM IT. AND WHILST I AM AUSTRALIAN AND NOT AMERICAN, IF YOU DO NOT LIKE AMERICANS, THEN STAY OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS, IF I DONT LIKE A PARTICULAR COUNTRY I DONT GO INTO IT AND START PEOPLE. SO LEAVE AMERICA AND ALL OTHER COUNTRIES ALONE AND STICK YOUR NOSE IN YOUR OWN BACK YARD AND REMEBER GOD AND HIS SON LORD JESUS ARE WATCHING YOU VERY CAREFULLY. AND I DONT CARE IF I GET MORE THREATS FROM YOU AS I HAVE BEEN ATTACKED VERBALLY BEFORE AND I REBUKE IT ALL IN GODS NAME. BUT IF IT MAKES 1 SINGLE PERSON TAKE NOTE OR SAVES 1 PERSONS LIFE THEN IT HAS DONE ITS JOB!!! REMEMBER BEFORE YOU GO TO TAKE AN INNOCENT LIFE, YOUR NOT GOD AND GOD SAID THOU SHALL NOT KILL AND HE IS KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON YOU!! SO BEFORE YOU GO OFF ON YET ANOTHER SLAUGHTER, REMEBER THAT GOD WILL NOT FORGET AND IT SHALL BE HIM THAT TAKES VENGANCE!! YOU DONT LIKE AMERICANS, THEN LEAVE THEM ALONE…. SIMPLE… I DISLIKE PEOPLE BUT I DONT KILL THEM. FOR IF I DID HALF THE WORLD WOULD BE DEAD.. INCLUDING ALL THAT FOLLOW THE FALSE PROPHET OF ISLAM…

        • cessch says:

          i cant imagine allah has a son. it is the arrogance of man to think he is on same level as allah sustainer and cheerisher of the worlds

    • JAHAD TO ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS says:

      YEAH!!!!!!!! GLORY WILL BE THAT DAY!

  7. mohammed babar says:

    asak, i want to kill all americans but main problem is money and equipment.no dought for ablity in my force.
    we are looking some financer.

    • muslimsbuster says:

      You and all of your shitty brothers will be exterminated before you can even think to do something bad against the western mankind. You are a mistake of God and should not even exist!!!!

    • allah says:

      eat pork

    • An American says:

      mohammed babar – I am an American. I would like to schedule an appointment for you to try to kill me. I propose just us two – unarmed – you can bring your god – i’ll come alone because the condition of the middle east proves your god is powerless.

      The muslim god is impotent – the Christian God has been kicking him around the world for years. Even atheistic Mongols trashed your breed. Pathetic loser.
      Reply

      • Denno says:

        Great response…they will NEVER fight one-on-one…they are too whimpy!! I’ll bet he is about 5ft 2in, a buck ten at most…lol…if he brings a friend, let me in!! I am up for a good “beat-down”!!

      • Kris says:

        Awesome!!!!!!!………I wanna come, too!!!!! ;0)

    • Mohammed(is that the only name you savages know?) You and your counterfeit religion are nothing more than knuckle dragging primitive apes from the dark ages. If the US had any balls when they captured you terrorists they would cover you in pig guts and then hang you. They did it to the muslims in the Philipines in the early 19th century . And guess what? You savages backed off. End of attacks.

    • Eagle says:

      babar-you’re a lowlife piece of pig shit.Death to all jihad muslims.

    • MahMood Iminthemoodforamelody says:

      Hey Mo Babar – go ask the Jews for some financing…

    • UN says:

      roflmao. it would also help if you wasnt a pussy ass bitch. im american and i dare you to try. i’ll add u to the 67 other towel headed sand niggers i have killed. fuck u bitch. u dont have what it takes to kill all americans u pathetic piece of shit. all u muslims need to die. ur nothing but trouble for the whole world. u cry teh world is oppressing u., u oppress your self u half witted dumb fucks. grow some god damn balls u dirty sack of shit,.

    • theresa kitchens says:

      we are human why do we need to hate each other & hurt each other why make fun of any god, what does hate and hurting each other do for us? nothing but give the devil what he wants from us.. when will we every learn how to love one another nobody is better than the other person

    • Katie Rees says:

      If you want to kill Americans and you don’t have the money, that means that you have wasted you life on bull shit. You will get no money. Go out and get a job save up some money. That will show your committment. but for now you get no money. we are broke. we have no money

    • whitetrashkiller says:

      So let me get this straight, you would kill all Americans if you only knew how to earn money and buy stuff that other (smart) people designed and built than shipped to your country to sell to make money, and you expect me not to doubt your ability? you fuckin sad joke…you sand nigs have been kickin in the dust longer than any other people on earth and still dragging down the ass end of mankind. Just be glad I’m not in charge, I’d drop so many fuckin bombs then open a U.S. Glass Bead & Burnt Brown Baby shop.

    • Helena Marie Taylor says:

      HEY FUCKWADE, KISS MY NON-MUSLIM, WITCH ASS, BITCH!!! COME AND GET SOME!!!!!!!!

    • JAHAD TO ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS says:

      I WILL FINANCE 1 GUN WITH 1 BULLET TO HAVE SHOT BETWEEN YOUR EYES.. ALL YOU PIGS THINK OF NOTHING BUT BLOODSHED.. AND ALTHOUGH I AM NOT JEWISH AND USED TO EMPATHISE WITH THOSE THAT WERE BEING THROWN OFF THEIR LAND, PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE MADE ME THINK TWICE, HAND ALL ARAB NATIONS WITH FILTH LIKE YOU IN IT BACK TO THE JEWS OF WHOM GOD ORIGIONALLY GAVE THE LAND TOO.. HAVE YOU NOT HEARD OF THOU SHALL NOT KILL… YET YOU PROCLAIM YOU ARE OF GOD???? I THINK NOT AS YOU DISOBEY HIS LAWS… 1 GUN 1 BULLET JUST FOR YOU SO YOUR HEAD IS BLOWN OFF BEFORE YOU KILL MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE. PRAISE THE TRUE GOD AND HIS SON JESUS AND REPENT YOUR EVIL WAYS

      • PATHOFPAIN says:

        If God chose that land just for the Jews, why did he put the Arab people there too?OH!Thats right he put them there as one and hate has separated them.I just wonder for how long will this go on before they wake up with their own childrens blood on their hands????Im pretty sure that what evolution has thought us ,is that it is already going on and will continue until they understand this simple fact is that know matter what or who or where,that we are all already from one.

  8. Azra'il says:

    Well Mr. Terrorist person you’re wrong. Your main problem is’nt money or equipment. Its brains and morals, two things you are in dire need of.

    And while you might say there is no doubt in the ability of your force, there is much doubt about your sanity. Trembling Hills is looking for a few good men, or raghead trash. I don’t think they’re too picky.

    But you come on and try and kill this american, I got a little suprise for ya. Hehee

  9. pork lover says:

    suck my infidel cock

  10. pork lover says:

    Why don’t you faggots go back and hide in your caves unlike Osama who hid in luxury while watching the American porn that you cowards hate us for. You’re all Osamas little bitches that get blown up so he can whack his tiny little dick and get famous from you. Bring that shit over here motherfuckers and let’s get it settled, WE DON’T HIDE FROM ANYONE.

  11. :)_FU. says:

    HEY FUCKING WORTHLESS PEACES OF PIG SHIT, WHEN I AM DEPLOYED I ALWAYS HAVE A BOTTLE OF PIGS BLOOD ON ME. YOU GET IN MY WAY ILL SPRAY YOU AND THEN BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF YOU AND THEN KILL YOU. JUST AS YOU DONT CARE ABOUT THE RULES OF WAR FARE NITHER DO I. SO WE WILL BRING IT AND IF YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR BROTHERS IN HARMS WAY HERE IN THE STATES THEN BRING IT BECAUSE I WILL BE HERE. PIGS BLOOD COVERED .40 WAITING FOR YOUR DOME.

    too the kind folks who worship true muslim faith peace be with you and may mohammed bless your life. and please continue to denounce ALL TERORRIST. and stop blaming the jews. start blaming your selfs for not standing up to these shit heads.

    • theresa kitchens says:

      We are human why do we need to hate each other & hurt each other why make fun of any god, what does hate and hurting each other do for us? nothing but give the devil what he wants from us.. when will we every learn how to love one another nobody is better than the other person.

  12. :)_FU. says:

    mohammed babar, i hope this is your real name because i am going to find you on face book and kill you. you fuck son of a bitch. im bringing my pigs blood and ammo covered in it. be afraid, be very afraid. you better hope the FBI gets there because i dont care if your a citizen or not.

  13. :)_FU. says:

    oh shit babar!!!!! you are on fb. ;)

  14. Enkil says:

    You cowardly pieces of pig vomit may you rot in your own cursed feces. Come to my house, I give you the invite to come do battle face to face you stinking pieces of swine filth. I will even give you a knife and when I’m done with you I’ll feed you to hogs and burn them soon after if they will even eat your stinking bodies. You killed my cousin, and my distant relatives in the crusades killed your people as I will.

  15. FUBabar says:

    babar lives in London, UK
    Here is his coordinates
    51.5, -0.116667

  16. FUBabar says:

    “F”ing terrorist slime. Watch out MFThey are coming to get your slime ball worthless hide. Thats right, you think you can just kill Americans? FU! you are one dead piece of shit!

  17. Christen Allen Iman says:

    Pork Lover, :) _FU. and lastly, Enkil, seem an interesting bunch, from a psychological perspective.
    Note the unbridled anger.

    Especially Pork Lover’s consistent use of aberrant sexual symbolsim relating to homosexuality and possibly sexual-orientation issues.
    That individual Reminds me of some of the military types who we learned of and saw for our own eyes were responsible for the images of human degradation and humiliation at Guantanamo Bay.
    Men stripped and forced to place their faces in their Muslim brother’s crotches or to lie naked in large piles or wear women’s and mens underwear on heir faces for no other reason than for amusement and to humiliate and degrade another human by power and control-oriented people.
    Men and young men, who may I also disclose, over 80-percent were simply innocent men caught up in the dragnet of American fear and who had committed no crimes against your pitiful excuse for a nation even though you attacked and occupied their home lands under false pretext/pretense and continue to remain there to satisfy your own national interests and globalistic agenda.
    Two wrongs don’t make a right.

  18. Joe Williams says:

    The treatment those prisoners got is just what islamist hand out to anyone who isn’t muslim. Hell, you even treat your women worse than those prisoners were treated. The only bad point I see in the treatment of any islamic extremist is, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO LIVE
    (by the way, Im a white southern born christian and fully intend to remain that way)

  19. Christen Allen Iman says:

    Well, Mr. Joe willimams..

    The maltreatment those “innocent” men and boys received for months/years at Guantanamo for the miscarrige of justice done to the many innocent people on 911 cannot be compared nor equated.

    The one’s responsible for flying civillian aircraft into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and the one that was most probably deliberately ditched in Pennsylvania which could have made it’s way to some other target in Washington, D.C., if not for the brave Americans onboard, was perpetrated by militants, fanatics, who just happened to be Muslims.

    What is of most importance is that they were better terrorists/fanatics then they were Muslims.

    Because If they were truly better Muslims than fanatical terrorists, they woud have recognized that it is forbidden in the Qur’an to kill innocent people, those who are non-combatants, especially women and children.
    And even when fighting actual combatants on the field to protect Islamic soil, we are told to cease hostilities when our enemies cease theirs.
    We are to treat our captives with a measure of respect as well.
    You are quite right that the enemy often mmistreats his captives, that the treatement by some Islamic terrorists is barbaric and outright inhumane.
    I agree.
    I’ve seen many videos taken by the Mujahideen after hey have captured the enemy and it appauls me to see how they mistreat them and decapitate them while still alive and this is not humane, it is evil in my eyes.

    And while admitting this side of Islam’s war against the West/United States, I also have to tell you that the US Military, and especially the CIA, under the auspices of the American government has killed many of their captives after the invasion of Iraq.
    One particular victim was an Iraqi Air Force General who had unwittingly found himself featured on the famious “deck of cards”. When he went to a miltary checkpoint to find out the reason for this, he was taken into custody and eventually bound by cord, mouth taped, placed headfirst into a sleeping bag, sat on and his interrogator intentionaly plaved his hand over the man’s mouth/nose suffocating him to death.
    The US government/the Military, first treied to conceal this “murder” but the truth/autoopsy was disclosed in the end and it had to prosecute this sodier.
    The CIA operative was not in any way prosecuted although he was involved.

    This general was innocent and was a loving husband and father..

    His family cries for him as well as the families of those who have died by the hands of evil and vicious people.

    Both are wrong in the eyes of God and this is what we must keep telling ourselves..

    Maybe change will eventually take place, maybe not.

    But NOT ALL MUSLIMS are terrorists or wife beaters.

    In relaity, most are loving, god-fearing people.
    Allah is not a false god as some suggest.

    It’s simply Arabic for “GOD’ as Yehova/Yahweh is Hebrew.

  20. George says:

    American kill a man in another country he is a hero or has Diplomatic immunity, on the other hand a man dedend his country he is a terrorist, you Arab a bunch of jack ass, how can you trust a american in your country, american only about war and that alone would destroy your country and economy, land and building.
    Every bomb that explode in ur country you are the one to face the danger and why does the american explode a bomd in here respective country, look the amount of damage caused in irak, them own money biuld there country how many chlidren didnt died….
    Pakistan received milliones from USA and at the end killing thousand in there country and yet after there disgrace when the navy enter Paki you stiull trust them… whatn idot///

  21. George says:

    Why dont we charge BUsh and obama, British for war crime… como on…
    so many innocent they have killed and them call each other hero ..Bush should and obama considered the number 1 terriost and destroyer of the world, we must understand the UN is the united state o america… can we see what ever the american said the un acknowledge and implemented…
    first this need to be done is start killed all those who are spy in ur cuntry, big leaders in America, and not only american in this war British also, canada, Austrilia etc…
    be carefull aribas and africa. remember the BRitish that caught you and sold you to the world to become slaves and still they doing it…

  22. raja says:

    but you know if we see you also kill the innocents when you attack any place or hotel like the taj hotel in mumbay

  23. Christen Allen Iman says:

    raja.

    Are you also one of the raj’a?

    You are right in what you say.

    This is true, the innocents are often times caught in the middle of such violent disputes, we are as much to vlame as our enemy in this regard.

    This is what we as true believers must not allow our brothers to perpetrate in the name of our Jihaad or in the name of Allah himself.

    There is no forgiveness for those when they knowingly target and kill innocent people or when we resign this as simply being “collateral damage”..

    The enemy is not the innocents but the military and their government personnel and those who assist them.
    And the Quran tells us that when our enemy’s hostilities cease on the battle field, we are to also refrain from further combat.
    Yet, we often do do not listen to what God has commanded of us.

    We even kill our fellow Muslim brothers simply out of sectarian opposition.
    Where does it say in the Quran that we are to kill one another due to this disagreement?
    We are to also oppose and fight the despotic and the tyranical rulers of our nations those who degrade us in our own lands and who try to destroy the words of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and the Quran.
    And those amongst us who rebel against Islam by associating with our enemies to fight against us.
    We are called by Allah to join one another for a common cause and not fight one another concerning issues of little relevance or of no real importance.
    This is where we need new leadership.
    This is where we will find a common ground and true understanding.

    -Christen Iman

    • PATHOFPAIN says:

      CHRISTEN IMAM- I FEEL YOU PAIN AND YOUR CONCERN. ALMOST EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID I CAN UNDERSTAND BESIDE AMERICA IS NOT A PITIFUL EXCUSE OF A NATION IT IS JUST LIKE YOURS. RICH IN RESOURCES, THAT IS CONTROLED BY A FEW WHO MAKE TRILLIONS OFF IT AND TRICKLE IT DOWN LIKE CRUMBS FROM BREAD AND ALL THEY WANT US TO DO IS FIGHT EACH OTHER WHILE THEY TAKE AT THEIR PLEASING. THE HOLY WARS ARE ALL ABOUT POWER TO A FEW AND CONTROL OF THE PEOPLE .WHEN ARE WE GOING TO WAKE UP AND BELIEVE THAT WE ARE BROTHERS AND SISTERS TOO AND WE ALL DESERVE LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.I DONT WANT TO KILL ANYONE AND FROM MY ACTIONS I DONT EXPECT TO BE KILLED BY ANYONE.WE AS PEOPLE OF THE WORLD CAN NOT WALK ALONE WE NEED TO STAND TOGETHER AND FIGHT FOR OUR FREEDOMS AND NOT EACH OTHER.WE MUST FOR THE FUTURES OF OUR CHILDREN AND ALL HUMAN KIND. BUT THEIR ARE SOME WE NEED TO CORRECT BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS WE ARE ALL CREATED BY ONE FORCE AND WE ARE ALL CREATED EQUALLY AND WE ALL DESERVE TO BE HAPPY NO MATTER WHAT WE BELIEVE IN ARE WHO ARE WHAT WE DO AS LONG AS NO ONES BEING HURT I HAVE A DREAM THAT ALL GODS CHILDREN WILL SIT DOWN AT A TABLE OF PEACE AND WE SHALL HAVE ONE LOAF OF BREAD AND SHARE IT AMONGST EACH OTHER EQUALLY AS BROTHERS AND SISTERS MAY GOD BE WITH YOU ON EVERYTHING YOU DO AND SAY .THANK YOU AND PLEASE WRITE BACK -PATHOFPAIN

  24. pork lover says:

    What form of aberrant sexual symbolsim do those young boys that the Pashtun constantly walk around with represent? You people represent yourselves as a cut above every other religion as far as sin is concerned yet participate in the same things you claim to hate about our society. It is not Americas fault that your governments keep all the money we constantly give them and don’t let any filter down to the citizens of your countries. Instead of attacking the real problem (your leaders), you hide from them also. Being a coward is your fault not ours. It is also not our fault that our society has evolved over the last thousand years and yours has stayed the same.That again is your governments fault. Attack the real problem.

  25. pork lover says:

    Our porn – Osama’s porn
    Guantanamo Bay – Videos of heads being cut off
    Democracy – Dictatorship
    Able to take care of ourselves – dirt poor
    Christian – Muslim
    Bravery – Cowardice
    Truthfulness – Hypocrisy
    Oh, by the way George, you obviously have a computer unlike your poor Muslim friends, why don’t you give up your comfortable life and go live with them.
    Hypocrisy!

  26. pork lover says:

    But NOT ALL MUSLIMS are terrorists or wife beaters.
    You’re right. The ones in this country are Koran abiding people who have seen what life can be like when not oppressed by their leaders, and I treat them with the utmost respect they deserve.
    How about a jihad against Al Queda, the ones that once again have set your people back a few hundred years. Get some guts and declare one, there are way more of you (as you claim) than there is of them.
    Christen Iman, I hope I have not been too angry or bi-sexual for you today!

  27. pork lover says:

    Remember, on 9/11 you started it with us and we will have the guts to end it. We did not make your people poor you did by allowing it to happen for so long. Until we meet again, my girlfriend and I will be oiling our assault rifles and eating three meals a day.

  28. pork lover says:

    If Allah is truly just another word for Yahweh or God, why did they burn the Christian churches after Mubarek was overthrown. Why do your Madrassas teach their followers to hate Christians? Why does Al-Queda allow Syria and Lybia to kill it’s own people if they truly care for the common Muslim? It’s because they want to be the new government that rapes their own people like the Taliban did when they promised a new and better life for everyone. You see Iman, you thought you were leaving comments on a site full of stupid redneck infidels who wouldn’t be able to see through your hypocritical bullshit. Your name is even hypocritical. I can understand why George believes you with his low intelligence and his really understandable form of spelling.

  29. pork lover says:

    Today I assisted a Muslim couple who were trying to get their injured Mother into the doctor’s office. They really seemed to appreciate my help and at no time did they seem to hate me for my religion or nationality. Hmmm.

  30. steve weiss says:

    Osama was a chicken shit, pig fucking pussy, just the same as Allah. All ragheads can suck my left nut !!!

  31. pork lover says:

    This is my last comment before leaving this worthless trash site. Joe Williams, FUBabar, :) _FU, Enkil, and Azra’il, you are my brothers and I will stand by you in battle until the end. Fuck these assholes and GOD bless America and the soldiers who fight so bravely for us.

  32. Othman says:

    You radical “so called” Muslims make me SICK! You kill innocent women and children, hide behide the Quran, and treat your women like second class citizens. The reason radical ideas exist is that for the most part, people carrying out their skewed ideas are not educated in the least.

    When was the last time a “homicide” bomber had a degree? 99.9 percent of Muslims are hard working spiritual people. The other 1% are a waste of sperm.

    • Wrong says:

      All muslims are implicated by their deafening silence. There is no good muslim.

      Muslims suffer from the tremendous frustration involved in worshiping an impotent god.

  33. An American says:

    mohammed babar – I am an American. I would like to schedule an appointment for you to try to kill me. I propose just us two – unarmed – you can bring your god – i’ll come alone because the condition of the middle east proves your god is powerless.

    The muslim god is impotent – the Christian God has been kicking him around the world for years. Even atheistic Mongols trashed your breed. Pathetic loser.

  34. allah says:

    Hello. My name is allah. Sorry I haven’t been around to help you in the Middle East but I’ve been sick and am very weak.

    I have no power left to battle this Christian God – he is too strong. He’s kicking my ass like Genghis Kahn used to. Even Genghis’ Blue Sky Father kicked my ass. I suck so bad. I think I’ll go find a little boy.

    • Fake says:

      Religion is for those who have been tricked into a false prophecy….both Christian and Muslim gods are FAKE!!!

      • Phathu Tshikosi says:

        realy…interesting, are jew? then the only thing thats real is money for you heh…crazy jew…fuck urself dick.

  35. Pig Vomit says:

    Right now I am wiping my 438 pound
    Hairy, Sweaty and s#!Ty arse with a Koran.

  36. Patton says:

    We destroyed the Nazi’s, we destroyed the Japs and we’re going to destroy YOU, you worthless pieces of Muslim cow shit.

    • Phathu Tshikosi says:

      not with an ailing economy buddy…wer are you going to borrow money to buy weapons to destroy muslims…ha ha ha

  37. Homer says:

    May the fleas of a 1000 camels infest the armpit of Mohamed, (Larryhamed, and Curlyhammed)

  38. JO JO says:

    Wahhabi muslims are the scum of the earth. Eradication of your kind is going to happen. If true muslims don’t take care of you the rest of the world will.

  39. Logic says:

    All religions are man-made. Only the dumb, ignorant or silly can’t understand this.

  40. suck my dick says:

    Wahhabi muslims are the scum of the earth

  41. Tyson says:

    To all you so called christians or western citizens online… STOP your evil and stupid trash talk to the muslims. You will only make things worse. You have to show respect to other peoples beliefs.

    And you muslims.. you should do the same. STOP killing in the name of Allah. IF Allah exists he’ll NOT be happy with you killing anyone.

    God bless! Peace!

  42. brokenarrow says:

    It really doesn’t matter what I think about your beliefs. Your religion has declared war against us Americans. You live here among us and threaten us from within. I have located several of your members on the west coast and they have been dealt with. The nerve of you coming here to deceive us from within. They were easy to find and I will decicate the rest of my life exterminting you and your kind. It comes very easy for me to exterminate pests like you. So keep your heads up, I’m coming and I will find you – you will be rolled up in your prayer rug and hauled to the local dumpsite, you don’t deserve any special earthly priveleges as you are nothing but animals. Your are so easy to defeat and I rally all Americans to become proactive and hunt these son’s of bitches.We are to fucking politically correct in this time of WAR. SO PLEASE, STARE THEM DOWN – FIND THEIR WEAKNESS – TAKE NOTS AND YES EVEN TAP THEIR HOMES. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO PROTECT YOUR HOME AND YOUR NEIGHBORS.

  43. tom meder says:

    muhammad calls for all adult male muslims to remove their genitals and soak them in pigs blood before burning them. it shall be done. let’s burn some dirty old books

  44. WHO AM I?
    If my Words and Thoughts give cause to Islam the Desire of Blood,
    You should have mine.
    Take note, I will not be lying down.
    JESSE QUINN HARRISON
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/6636697/a_stand_for_t_u_r_f_truth_understanding_rights_freedom/

  45. Jon says:

    Mohammed was a pork eating, woman hating sodomite. He enjoyed f–king young men and would often perform o-al sex on one while being f–ked by another. He was a real fag.

    • Incy says:

      Don’t forget the part where he married a 11 year old girl to make sure he was marrying a virgin. Then by 13 she had his child!!!! Islamic men always want to marry virgins, but they can go a fu*k as many women as he wants. Disgusting sex orientated people.

  46. theresa kitchens says:

    we are human why do we need to hate each other & hurt each other why make fun of any god, what does hate and hurting each other do for us? nothing but give the devil what he wants from us.. when will we every learn how to love one another nobody is better than the other person
    Theresa k.2011

  47. Cory Hartsburg says:

    We need to make sure that the medieval policies of the Mullahs are removed from our countries. Freedom of thought will save our people. Slavish observance of Koranic barberism will continue to cause the civilized world to attach our families.

  48. billy says:

    Go blow ur self Tyson. Muslims need to leave our country.

  49. Phathu Tshikosi says:

    Americans and jews have one thing in common…one brain cell ha ha ha. I think what muslim extremists, chinese and other developing nations are doing to america is because of pain they suffered while serving the great american economy’s needs first. One day americans with their long long noise buddies will go down to their knees. Africa is thinking twice about gaddafi now and not to mention Brazil, South Africa, Turkey, Russia and China’s ignorance of the great america

  50. muhammed is a butfucking faggot says:

    these terrorists are the modern-day Nazis. they are truly fags, just like catholic priests. family guy had it spot on when they depicted “the real 72 virgins” as pocket protector wearing, star trek and wars loving, IT specialists who spend their lives playing world of warcraft. i guess that would make them prospective butt-fucking homosexuals then, right?
    the bottom line is they wouldn’t stand a chance against us in regular warfare. so they have to resort to fear tactics and gorilla warfare. hiding in caves and attacking innocent people at our homes. one on one in a ring they would get their asses handed to them, literally. b/c we would reach down their throats and grab their colon as our hand’s headed out the rectum then place their colon in their own hands. btw, i had my personal website pirated by a durka durka islamabad jihad website about six months ago…it was an easy fix i just had to republish my content, but i don’t know how long their homosexual banter was displayed in place of my content. wow.

  51. muhammed is a butfucking faggot says:

    @Phathu Tshikosi:

    if americans and jews have only one brain cell, then first of all it’s just one more than you and your kind have. and second, the us has the #1 air force in the world and Israel has the #2 Air Force in the world and the us trained them…what does your but buddies have to hang your turbins on? a group of uncontrolled, disorganized wanna be militias where one asshole doesn’t even know what the other asshole is shitting. yeah terrorists have weapons but where did they come from? they’re ‘nam and korea leftovers. yesterday’s outdated technology. the us and israel have the technology to split one of your ass hairs in two 100 miles away. so the fight would be so lopsided it would be ridiculously unfair.

  52. Superior Thinking says:

    Dear Terrorists, friend of known Terrorirts, families of Terrorists,

    It’s come to my attention that you are all trained idiots. In other words, you train yourself to be stupid and naive. As soon as your children are old enough then you teach them the bullshit that was feed to you as a child. You hide because that’s all you can do, you attack like cowards do, and your sense of honor is non-existant. Elders of villages even turn their back on you because they know better. They know that as soon as you die another young person of your age will replace them and die as well and so on and so forth. Who will remember those that have sacrificied their lives, do you even keep track? I doubt that you do unless you’re Osama Bin Laden and guess what, he is also dead. If you are true Muslims then you should read the Koran as it was written not the abbreviated version provided by your terrorists groups. Muslims of the past fought wars honorably and believed in the sanctity of their familiies. You shame your ancestors by not giving a proper future to your children but listen instead to those that promise things to you and your family for your life. Ask them to promise education, medicine, and a way to live a long life in peace and see what they say. At the end of the day, you will always lose, because we don’t quit either. Remember that we don’t quit and never have. Have fun hiding

  53. David King says:

    Obama For The World- world’s Obama tribute song! For Obama’s change & America’s freedom! http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/obama-for-the-world/id382415281?uo=4

  54. non says:

    ssssuck it muslumssss….

  55. tj says:

    Can’t you all see what the common thread is in all of this. For the last 2000 years it has been Jews against Christians, Muslims against Jews, Christians against Jews on and on. It’s religion. Every religious person believes that theirs is the one and only. They are righteous. Then they kill for it. Is it not common sense that you are all wrong? There is no God, no Allah, no nothing but us. The Catholic church did this same thing before. Now it’s the Muslims. Prove to me that there are virgins awaiting you in heaven. Prove to me that there is a heaven. Anybody. Face it, religion is man’s fear of mortality. And we as a species are so afraid to die that we will die on the belief that there is some magical land out there in the clouds. Wake the fuck up! You live once! Make it worth while. Don’t car bomb somebody! I have fought there twice now. I didn’t want to be there and I know we shouldn’t be there. But for all that is reasonable, wake up! There is no Santa Clause, no tooth fairy, no Easter Bunny, and nobody has died and risen for us. It’s nature. Just as beautiful and fascinating as your religion, but when we die we die. Get over your fears.

    • JS says:

      I completely agree with you. Dan Brown hit it on the head in “The Da Vinci Code”, that, not only did the Vatican get it wrong all so many years ago, but that all organized religions have it wrong. Jesus was a MAN, nothing more, and to base a religion on his so-called “abilities” and deeds, is like saying that the Americans actually killed Bin Laden, something that a vast majority don’t believe.

  56. John K says:

    I wish just one of you idiotic “jihadist” would realize, David Letterman lives in the USA, home of FREEDOM of speach, which means he can say WHATEVER he wants, and all you can do is play the part of the dog leashed on the porch,running to the end of the chain and barking.

    If the cause is so great, then why don’t all of you ignorant Islamic Extremist just go somewhere and suicide bomb yourselves. You haven’t learned yet have you, look back to after December 7th, 1941, and see what happened when Japan woke up the “sleeping giant”

    I can agree with you on one thing, our soldiers are not wanted in Iraq and Afganistan, and I am all for bringing them back to the United States, but our government won’t do that until there is a functional government in both those countries, and that isn’t going to happen until your “idiots with no future”…oh im sorry…martyr’s stop with the IED’s and the suicide bombings…quid-pro-quo.

  57. JS says:

    When will the United States realize that they don’t have to be and aren’t the worlds police department? Don’t they have enough problems in their country without trying to “save the world”. Their economy is in the crapper, the unemployment rate is skyrocketing and the healthcare system is one of the worst in the world.

    If they would stop giving away their money like they have an endless supply, and start focusing on their own internal problems, then maybe the rest of the world would take them seriously.

  58. Mellowloaf says:

    Dear fuck heads I am drawing pictures of moham id jerking off his one inch prick, wanna fuck with me, come on camel fuckers

  59. Peace to all nations says:

    I have been reading through all these post and I thought instead of trying to answer them all I would just say…”I am disgusted by all the hate.”
    Mohamed wants to kill all Americans then Americans want to kill what they cal towel heads and even worse name calling.
    How can you as adults hate everyone of any particular group? You all are helping to spew hatred…how can there ever be world peace. You have to want it and that doesn’t mean doing what your doing.
    Peace to ALL

  60. Christen Allen Iman says:

    PATHOFPAIN..

    Thank you for your support and kind words.

  61. Christen Allen Iman says:

    Pork Lover…

    You had written; “It is also not our fault that our society has evolved over the last thousand years and yours has stayed the same.That again is your governments fault. Attack the real problem.”

    My society is the very same as yours, I am an American, born in America.
    I converted to Islam a little over a year ago.
    And not as the result of anyone’s prodding or manipulation.
    I did so simply because I was called by God to do so.

    When the 911 attacks took place I was ready to go over to the middle east as a civillian contractor with prior military police and other specialized training and experience.
    I wanted to kill every last member of both the Taliban and al Qaeda.

    I have since learned that the truth is not always apparent, not always as it appears.

    As an Imam I do not condone the killing/murder of innocents for any reason whatsoever.
    I believe that in condoning this or at the very least, accepting it as a necessity during Jihad, is wrong and must be stopped at once.

    Anyone, and this especially includes Imams and others versed in the Qur’an and who lead others in the straight path, should go back an read what God has commanded us not to do.

    I do condone the taking of lives of militray forces and their assisters and the governments (including the United States) that lead them in invasion and occupation of Muslim nations.
    As an ex US military member I do in fact hold quite a bit of respect for the men and women who serve our nation in keeping peace and giving others around the world freedom when they cry out for this.
    This is what ALL of us are to do regradless as to our nationality or particular religious belief, and it is commendable and it is our responsibility as human beings.

    But there is a big difference between invading and occupying another sovergien nation for the purpose of removing a tyrantical and dispotic ruler, to free the people, and that of doing so for other reasons relating to national self interest as the USA has done.

    These people who are fighting against the US soldiers in locations such as Iraq and Afghanistan are doing so to repell an enemy.
    They are made up of members of al Qeada and the Taliban.
    But many are simply ordinary men and women who have joined the ranks of such groups in order to repell and are not terrorists, but simply freedom fighters.

    There is a difference between the two.

    Terrorists fly planes into buildings with civillian workers and visitors.
    Terrorits attack and kill their enemies and give no thought as to the innocents caught in the middle who may also be killed.

    Their final objective is all they can see.

    A freedom fighter is one who fights for his country, for freedom from tyrantical rule and oppression.

    As the Patriots did in the early years of this country to rid themselves of British rule.

    We don’t refer to these Patriots as being terrorists, we call them freedom fighters and true Americans.
    But to the British soldiers and to the Crown, they would be hanged as such for their acts against England.

  62. Savage Lapua says:

    Few will enter the kingdom of heaven, many will perish.
    The right GOD is about love, not hate. Where will you muslim extremist go when you die? Its up to you to decide. I pray you make the right choice. Its eternal.

    • PATHOFPAIN says:

      My reply to all this hatred is when is everyone going to talk about what their problems are with each other and not name call and threating to KILL each other? Thats what this site is for not spewwing hate but learn to understand and work it out.That being said ,im a male christian american and proud of it.My problem with the muslim extremist are what did i do to you to make you think its ok to say you will kill us all?what did all of us do to you?I dont know if you know me are not, im a cool dude and we would have fun if you knew me.My children and your children could play together. I comend all of you that are fighting the true enemy your dictators and when you are free to learn and speak as free as you like youll see that it truly is a wonderful place to be [its not perfect but its a stone,but the future is bright].Dont worry we over here have our own problems with our goverment [not the systems just the players and we will set them straight ] If you have a reply please say what you feel ,but be respectful for i am human too.Just like you are.dont be afraid im willing to talk remember i dont know who you are and i dont want no harm againt you by anyone.[LETS TALK LIKE ADULTS]GOD IS WATCHING If we ever want our children to live in peace then we must start with peace ill start HERES MY HAND PLEASE DONT BE AFRAID.May God be with you on all you say and do

  63. Jo Jo says:

    I agree that all of this hatred is bad. Peace to all people. Hopefully moderate religions will find a peaceful way to stop ALL fundamental extremism. Eradication was a tough word. What I meant was eradication of narrow-mindedness and fundamental views through peaceful processes.

  64. tj says:

    JS, you are obviously an intelligent person. You made my point for me. What is wrong with “just” being a man? It doesn’t mean you aren’t great. It does mean you aren’t a God. If people would focus less of their thoughts on faith and believing that things are pre-determined, and more time making a change we would be far better off. Jesus can be great and just a man at the same time. Just like Muhammed can. They are now mutually exclusive. The fact is that this life is it. There is not anything after. Make the best of it. I write not as an armchair critic, but as a former U.S. Marine. I have seen it for real. Hate breeds hate. To all of you on either side who can only use foul language and uneducated opinions, please stop and realize that you are causing this. You create the stereotype on both ends. This can only stop by your actions. Think them through.

  65. Christen Allen Iman says:

    “Those who believe (in the Qur’an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians, – any who believe in Allah (God) and the last day, and work righteousness, – on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.”
    – Surah 5: 69 (The Table Spread)

    We are all brothers and sisters even though we have some differences.
    We are not to kill one another unless we are being attacked or oppressed.
    This is from God himself and yet many (on both sides) fail to realize this simple truth.

    -Christen

  66. Christen Allen Iman says:

    tj….
    I truly hope that my earlier statement concerning my approval in the taking of lives of US service members had not offended you as you are a former Marine and (Semper Fidelis).
    I have a number of close friends who are currently in the military or who are former military personnel.
    My father was a member of Army Special Forces and my very best friend to this day is a former Navy SEAL.
    Taken out of context, my statement, naturally, would make me appear as no better than the ones being faught in the name of the war on terror.
    I made this statement not in opposition to those proud men and women of the United States military who continually place thier lives at risk defending America as well as the free world from harm by any number of enemies around the globe.
    I made that particular statement in defense of what I consider what is right above all else considered..
    God’s commands and humanity as a whole.
    For those peoples who have been invaded, occupied, and continually assaulted by a foreign force (by our nation) in the name of freedom, when this is clearly not the goal/the agenda behind the United States decision to do so.
    I realize, from history, that on a number of occasions the United States had no other choice than to proceed with similar decisions in order to counter enemy forces whos goal was to attack and annihilate America and other western nations, such as happened after the Japanese’s unprovoked attack on Pearl Harbor and to prevent the Third Reich from dominating the entire of Europe which had a number of American allies.
    To do so in such cases is of course a legitimate reason to proceed.
    But the United States has been involved in the overthrow (coup’s) of a number of nations around the globe and has involved itself in internal matters regarding other nations which it has no right to interfere in.
    It continually does so in order that it only furthers it’s own self interest..
    but through manipulation and deception, especially when it comes to it’s own citizens.
    If the invasion of Iraq was truly done in order dispose of it’s tyrantical leader (as we are told), and to neautralize any possible threat of weapons of mass destruction (which have never been recovered), then this has been accomplished and the extended occupation has served no productive purpose but rather to foment a rebellion between those who believe this long, drawn-out occupation is in violation of this nations sovereignty.
    The interim government was in fact appointed by none other than high-ranking officials of the United States and this is seen by many of this country’s citizens as being nothing more than a puppet regime which does the bidding for the west, the US at the expense of of the Iraqi people.
    This is why there is practically a civil war taking place.
    This did not exist when the former ruler was in power and many Iraqi people have openly provided they’d rather have had Saddam Hussein as their leader than what we’ve given them through our interference and manipulation.
    I will say this much.. and it does not take a genuis to realize this..that once the foreign military numbers occupying Iraq are brought down, this country will naturally succumb to Shi’a rule.
    And Iran will have a hold on Iraq..Something the United States fears.
    Similar as to Viet Nam.
    Therefore, nothing has been accomplished by the invasion and ten-year occupation of Iraq by the US.
    It was a waste of billions and billions of tax payers monies and only made certain US Corportaions quite a bit wealthier and thousands of US soldiers have lost the lives for naught, and many more come home mangled/torn.
    This so called “War On Terror” is but an ill attempt and can never bring an end to the enmity between each side.
    There are of course ways that have a better chance at succeeding, but the US government, as we have seen in a good number of scenarios such as Waco, would rather display a show of force rather than consider more tactful approaches.

  67. Halla says:

    مرة واحدة ، ودعت سكان المدينة الملا نصر الدين لالقاء خطاب. عندما حصل على المنبر (المنبر)، وقال انه وجد الجمهور لم يكن متحمسا للغاية ، حتى انه سأل “هل تعرف ما انا ذاهب الى القول؟” أجاب الجمهور “لا”، لذلك أعلن “ليست لدي رغبة في التحدث الى الناس الذين لا يعرفون حتى ما سأتحدث عنه” وغادر. شعرت بالحرج الشعب، ودعا له مرة أخرى في اليوم التالي. هذه المرة عندما سأل نفس السؤال ، فأجاب الشعب “نعم” هكذا قال الملا نصر الدين : “حسنا ، منذ كنت تعرف ما انا ذاهب الى القول ، وأنا لن نضيع المزيد من وقتك” ، وغادر. والآن الناس بالحيرة حقا. قرروا في محاولة واحدة لمزيد من الوقت، ومرة ​​أخرى دعا الملا أن أتكلم في الأسبوع التالي. مرة أخرى سأل نفس السؤال — “هل تعرف ما انا ذاهب الى القول؟” الآن كان الناس على استعداد لذلك ونصفهم من أجاب “نعم” في حين أن النصف الآخر أجاب “لا”. وقال الملا نصر الدين بذلك “إن نصف الذين يعرفون ما انا ذاهب الى القول ، أقول ذلك لالنصف الآخر” ، وغادر!

  68. Halla says:

    ألف مسلم يموت ويذهب إلى السماء. عندما يحصل هناك، وسانت بيتر يجتمع معه عند البوابة، وتقول : “مرحبا بكم في السماء ابني، من فضلك ادخل!”
    ويقول مسلم : “أوه لا ، لا ، أنا لا يمكن أن يدخل دون أن يرى الله”. القديس بطرس يقول : “أوه… الله، وهو في الطابق العلوي.”
    ومسلم يقول : “حسنا بالطبع، الله الطابق العلوي!” يصعد الطابق العلوي من المنزل ويلتقي يسوع.
    يسوع يقول : “مرحبا بكم في طفلي السماء، من فضلك ادخل!” ويقول مسلم : “أوه لا ، لا ، مع كل الاحترام الواجب ، لا أستطيع أن أدخل من دون رؤية الله”.
    يقول يسوع “ولكن بالطبع… الله هو في الطابق العلوي، الطابق العلوي”.
    الابتسامة مسلم ويفكر لنفسه ، “بالطبع، إن الله على رأس السماء نفسها لأنه هو الأكثر عالية!”
    عند البوابة النهائية يلتقي الرب كل الاقوياء نفسه الذي يقول “مرحبا بكم في طفلي السماء، من فضلك ادخل”.
    كما هو متوقع، ويقول انه مسلم لا يمكن أن يدخل من دون الله الاجتماع، الذي رد الرب “كما فهمت ، طفلي… الله هنا، لكنه مشغول الآن، لماذا لا يكون لديك مقعد وانتظر منه ؟ ”
    هو متحمس جدا للمسلم أن الله له وهذا مهم جدا، وبعد كل هذا انه يعتقد دائما هكذا. الرب يقول لمسلم “لماذا تشرب يجب العطشى لك، هل تريد؟”
    ويقول مسلم : “نعم ، أود الشراب، وأود أن كثيرا جدا”.
    والرب يسأل ، “هل ترغب في فحم الكوك؟”
    ومسلم يقول : “نعم ، هذا يبدو جيدا، شكرا لكم”.
    يقول الرب : “إنه لا حقا. أعتقد أنني سوف أكون معكم”.
    ومع أن الرب قطعت أصابعه، وقال : “الله، جلب اثنين من كوكا!”

  69. noua dreapta says:

    fuck italians bitc jews!!!!!!

    allah will kill all!!!!

  70. Christen Allen Iman says:

    Hella…What does Coca Cola have to do with anything we are discussing?

    العطشى لك، هل تريد؟”
    ويقول مسلم : “نعم ، أود الشراب، وأود أن كثيرا جدا”.
    والرب يسأل ، “هل ترغب في فحم الكوك؟”
    ومسلم يقول : “نعم ، هذا يبدو جيدا، شكرا لكم”.
    يقول الرب : “إنه لا حقا. أعتقد أنني سوف أكون معكم”.
    ومع أن الرب قطعت أصابعه، وقال : “الله، جلب اثنين من كوكا!”

  71. Your ALL FAGS says:

    All of you FUCKING jihad Faggots GO FUCK EACH OTHER IN YOUR ASSES.This Is my world too you fucking pieces of SHEEP AND GOAT SHIT.You ARE ALL FUCKING TO STUPID AND UGLY TO BE SMART ENOUGH JUST TO LIVE AND LOVE.IF i COULD I WOULD HUNT ALL OF YOU DOWN KILL YOU AND STUFF YOUR MOUTHS WITH MY SHIT.YOU BUNCH OF DUMBASS SAND NIGGERS THAT NEED TO BE ERRADICATED FROM THIS EXISTENCE.I WOULD KICK YOUR FAGGOT ASSES WITH MY BARE FUCKING HANDS NOT HIDE LIKE A LITTLE BITCH,YA FUCKING SISSY FAGS.